Comments on: Where is this “god” you speak of?

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I’m Sure You’re A Veritable John Connor « Because No One Asked — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:47:37 +0000

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By: occgroups

occgroups — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:30:00 +0000

doubting Thomas was convinced! …..as were over 500 others …… it’s hard to argue with Biblical prophecy and leave it to chance…..so Jesus was willing to die and let a ringer take his place?….that is some faith!

I will leave you with this…

“some people who do not believe in God are consistent and don’t believe in love either. No primary evidence. In fact, my nonscientific research has found a direct correlation between losing faith in love and losing faith in God. But for many people it is at this point where they simply live with the inconsistency. You can’t see God; you can’t prove God in the laboratory. Believing in God is a stretch, but they believe in love. But you can’t see love. You can’t prove love. The only evidence available is secondary. No primary evidence. Yet, when you love someone, you are more certain of that than of almost anything else.
Love reminds us that there is a knowing beyond reason.
Solomon once wrote that God has set eternity in the hearts of men, but that in the end we can’t seem to make any sense of it. He somehow knew deep within us is our greatest evidence for God and our greatest connection to God. Jesus said the kingdom of God is within, yet for 2000 years after him, we have kept looking outward for this kingdom rather than inside of us. I am absolutely convinced of this one thing: God has placed cravings within your soul that will drive you insane or drive you to him. Your soul longs for God; you may just not know it yet.” (Erwin Mcmanus – Soul Cravings)

with you in the journey……..

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:19:37 +0000

oops – did NOT come back to life I meant. PIMF.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:18:23 +0000

I have no doubt that Jesus was crucified…but he did come back to life. He had a ringer because no one recognized the resurrected Jesus. Not even his mother.
And the old “trilemma” is a logical fallacy.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_perry/trilemma.html

By: occgroups

occgroups — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:34:33 +0000

North Americans are very generous….that is not what I was referring to. What I meant is that despite the fact that we are the ‘richest’ and most technologically advanced people in the world, we are still overwhelmed with baggage….we are lonely, we have more mental health disorders than anyone else, we are discontent and lack purpose to our lives, suicide, murder, violence, hate crimes, sky high divorce rates, thousands of kids without 2 parents in the home, drug and alcohol abuse, tons of personal financial debt….why can’t the most advanced nations in the world figure out life?

Jesus …. liar, lunatic, or the real deal? Not sure a liar would go so far to let himself be crucified…..not sure a lunatic could say the things he said and lead a movement that has changed the world….the real deal…I think so…what about the over 500 prophecies that came true in the Old Testament concerning Christ and other events….these things were written hundreds of years before they happened….not just a few things….hundreds…..mathematically impossible by today’s standards.

Pretty hard to fake restoring a dead man to life…or to fake your own crucifixion….and then to have over 500 eyewitnesses?…the people from Jesus’ day that he healed were sick and lame for years and years…you didn’t fake that kind of stuff ….as for false teachers and fake healings today….I’m with you…it happens all the time…the Bible said that it would too.

God is showing himself all over the place….but at its most basic point, everything comes down to faith….what anyone chooses to believe is rooted in faith…if you choose to believe that everything is just the result of chance then it takes faith to believe that…if you choose that we have been created by a higher power then that also takes faith…I for one, choose God over chance…I choose to believe that I don’t have all the answers but I believe in a God that does…I choose to believe that I need grace and that I serve a God who sent His Son to die for me….I choose to believe a God that says that in Him we will find life…I have experienced new life with Christ and I can’t wait to serve Him and my fellow neighbors each and every day.

thanks for sharing your thoughts…..this has been a very enjoyable conversation…I appreciate your willingness to hear my thoughts as I have appreciated hearing from you (crazybengal and Michele)…the conversation may continue but I just wanted to say that I appreciate your questions and comments.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:53:51 +0000

North Americans are the most giving people in the world. The US and canada give millions of dollars away every year.
I do not have any objections regarding Jesus. The new testament is lovely. Jesus had great ideas. But I think that most of his tricks are the same ones that you see on evangelical TV every day. God cannot heal amputees…but he can “heal” sick, blind and deaf people. Because you can fake all three. You cannot regenerate missing limbs…you cannot fake that.
If God was really real he would show himself now…when we are smart enought to tell the difference between magic and “miracle”.

By: occgroups

occgroups — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:50:54 +0000

I can admit this…..there is nothing I am more sure about than the relationship I have with Jesus is real and personal…God is not interfering with my life…you are right…He is my life….I have experienced and been witness to countless things in my life where God has revealed Himself…aside from that….when it comes to Jesus’ magic tricks I would say that it is pretty difficult to fake raising dead people to life…making the blind see and the deaf hear….it is pretty difficult to fake the eyewitness of over 500 people to his own death and resurrection….can you imagine a court case today with over 500 eyewitnesses?…case closed!…. and we know for certain that the Bible has more historical credibility than any other book on the planet….there are more biblical documents and texts than any other book…so if we accept any book as credible, the Bible should be the first.

what is it that you object about Jesus? what did he do that was so objectionable?
Have you read the gospel accounts of the life of Christ? If not, I encourage you to. See for yourself.

I agree with you that it is more difficult for people to find God in a culture that doesn’t need God ….. we have everything….we know everything…..but for some reason, life is still messed up for most people…..North America is too busy taking care of ‘me’ and filling itself up on worldly possessions that never bring happiness….people are not too smart now, they are too busy consuming themselves with themselves…..and thus our society continues to spiral downhill…we think we have it all but we are the most unhappy people in the world…contentment is only found in the source of contentment…God.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:29:38 +0000

Come on. Admit it. You don’t really believe in God – deep down inside you know it is not and cannot be real. That is why God does not interfere with our lives in any way. That is why he will never reveal himself. Ever. Jesus’s magic tricks won’t work in a world with technology. People are too smart now.

By: occgroups

occgroups — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:19:09 +0000

God is not blaming anyone crazybengal…

We are the ones who have fallen ….. God is reaching out to us and offering us grace

God is not blaming us…..he is offering us redemption….a big difference!