Comments on: Memory and Muslims

By: letterstoadyingdream

letterstoadyingdream — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:40:11 +0000

I think it might be the study that showed 40% of Muslims living in the US think that sharia law should be imposed in the US. How about this the fact that in Britain these courts have now gained legitimacy over parts of Muslim society in the country at the request of many of the Muslims there. It’s only a matter of time before they want if to control even more then it does now.

Further more you still never defended your comment about the context where it is fine for a man in his fifties to marry a child. From one of your posts her several months ago.

By: AyyA

AyyA — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:33:01 +0000

abuhunain
Most Islamic majority states have mixed (secular and religious) constitutions, except in rare situations like Turkey. These constitutions were a copy-past of French and English constitutions of the European Renaissance era, reedited to include Islamic interference, due to the power of Islamic religious clerics, especially in Egypt, in the Othman empire prier to its demise. And accordingly; most of the judiciary systems of the Islamic Majority states is secular, except for civil cases; like marriage and divorce; they have their own judiciary systems of share’a. In Kuwait, for example, we have two courts; one belonging to Shiite sect and one to Sunni.
As for “What concerns you about Muslim gaining political strongholds?”.
Personally; I am escaping the atrocities of Sharea’a in my own country to a secular system that you are apparently enjoying while living under the humane laws of the secular West, and reminiscing about the great Islam which is just utopia in your head, sorry to be harsh, but this is how I feel about you whom don’t know what you are talking about because you did not live it.
I have witnessed what happens when Muslims gain political stronghold, and I have witnessed their craze for reproduction in my own country, multiplying, and eventually gaining full control. I have also witnessed how this gain receded my country decades back, and I don’t wish to see it happening in the West under their soft policy of “Protecting Human Rights”, and the policy of “Islamophobia” that is becoming a real block for Muslims, living in the West, to communicate rationally.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:05:04 +0000

yadda yadda yadda

By: abuhunain

abuhunain — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:59:22 +0000

@ crazybengal

You call what you “put” on your blog the “truth”? It looks more tabloidish to me far from any sort of real attempt to critique, question or engage the Islamic faith. Can you even tell me what a Muslim believes besides what you grab of muck off the Internet?

Do you honestly believe that the only concern of almost 2 billion people is to institute penal code so that hands can be cut and adulterers can be stoned? If you honestly believe that, it’s sad to say the least. Can explain how Islam has grown and developed in the US over 400 years with little to no incident of “Clash of Civilizations”?

The average Muslim families I know have at least 3 children; they own homes and have careers. Do you really believe that our only concern is to wipe kaafirs off the map? If you honestly believe that the only concerns of Muslims are as monolithic as these then you really are a “crazybengal”.

Are Muslims somehow non-human? Are we completely unreasonable and unable to deal with modern society while yet we live and thrive? Is our humanity so skewed by reading the Qur’an that we can’t related to living in the “world” with the rest of the humans?

As I said, you, who are so concerned about democracy, actually allow your prejudice and bigotry to prevent the likes of a true democracy. Are Muslims 3/4 human in your estimation like Africans were considered 3/4 human? Shall we see history repeat itself on the basis of religion?

You claim truth and honesty but resort to calling me ‘abupoopoo’? C’mon, feel free to go to our blog and answer the numerous questions we’ve put out there for discussion? Open your eyes and look into the real world think rationally, consider things pragmatically.

With that said, I challenge you to bring a fresh critique or honest inquiry for Muslims. But I also challenge you to stay away from the Daniel Pipes/Dennis Prager styled questionnaire approach. What really concerns you about Muslims living next door? What concerns you about Muslim gaining political strongholds? What concerns you about Muslims engaging and being part of the society?

By: letterstoadyingdream

letterstoadyingdream — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:46:46 +0000

It’s that and “Gentlemen, there’s no fighting in the war room!” from Dr. Strangelove as some of the best quotes ever.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:22:21 +0000

lol – that’s great!

By: letterstoadyingdream

letterstoadyingdream — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:19:05 +0000

“because there isn’t much to say to someone who believes the moon is made of green cheese”

-W. F. Buckley Jr.

although it was about communists.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:46:14 +0000

it’s okay – I know exactly what you mean…but I learned a while back, in another forum, that you cannot argue with these trolls. The most important thing is to put the truth out there. They cannot argue with the truth.

By: letterstoadyingdream

letterstoadyingdream — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:41:38 +0000

yeah but I can’t help but fight with them, and for that I am kind of sorry.

By: crazybengal

crazybengal — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:30:53 +0000

I wasn’t referring to you Letters. I was talking about the smug little troll abupoopoo.